Christians v. Atheists:
How Can You NOT See v. How Can You BELIEVE
PART ONE
PART ONE
Not too long ago I was witness to a Christian fellow struggling as he tried his damnedest to give another fellow a strong enough argument for converting to Christianity. I use the term 'argument' not to infer literal bickering and shouting, but rather to mean a discussion in which opposing parties to an argument share their ideas and reasoning for believing whatever it is they believe.
Towards the end of the argument the Christian fellow asked the other man how it was that he could not see the splendor of God all around him? How was it that with the miracle of life within him he could not see the glory of God, the power of faith in Christ, and the salvation offered by Jesus?
The man to whom the questions were posed responded with, "How can you believe in the Bible as actual proof of truth as to the existence of God? You tell me that the Bible, the Word of God, is infallible. Forever and for all eternity. I would confidently assume you intend to mean that the entire Bible is truth, Old and New Testaments alike. You say this truth is absolute and NEVER EVER changes. If that is the case then you are believing and understanding absurd stories as actual truth."
"Because they are truth," answered the Christian.
"You truly believe that a talking snake with legs concocted a plan to trick God's creation to do what he wasn't supposed to do, that two people and ONLY two people populated the entire earth which implies rampant incest, that some old codger lived to the ripe old age of nine hundred sixty-nine years, that the story of Noah's Ark is real, that Jacob wrestled the angel of the Lord, and a host of other insanely ridiculous stories actually took place?"
"Yes. It says in the Bible that the Bible is the the Word of God and I have faith that this is true."
"So then you agree with some of the requirements set forth by God in the Old Testament that adulterers should be put to death, people who study astrology should be put to death, children who mouth off at their parents should be put to death-"
"Wait wait wait," interjected the Christian politely, "Those are all in the Old Testament and part of God's old law and covenant with man. However, when Jesus died on the cross for all the sins of mankind the resulting salvation was a NEW covenant with man that all who believe should not perish when they die."
"But you said not two minutes ago that the Word of God NEVER changes?"
"It doesn't."
"Sure it does. You infer that change by labeling the supposed covenants with God as old and new. If God's law is everlasting and complete and infallible there would be zero need to create any other kind of law, right? I mean, whatever God says goes."
"Of course whatever God says goes for all eternity."
"So, people should be sacrificing animals like they did in the Old Testament?"
"Obviously that no longer applies. Jesus died on the cr-"
"No. No no no. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot say that God's word is infallible and eternal and then turn around and say some of the things in the Bible no longer apply. It either IS or IS NOT absolute truth."
It was truly an interesting argument to hear and it got me thinking more and more about specific verses and various others stories in the Bible that many Christians take lock, stock, and barrel as literal truth.
Enoch: The Fellow Who Never Died
Genesis 5:24, "Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, for God had taken him away." So, here we have the story of Enoch who supposedly walked with God and then never died because POOF God took him up. Most of the videos on YouTube were wayyy FUBAR in regards to Enoch traipsing about the heavens with God and this was the only video I could manage to stomach long enough to add it to the blog. The nut in the video goes on and on about our disappearing pal Enoch. Whatever. Then he tries to tell people that the story of Enoch is really about how God is a rewarder. ? Please, that is nowhere near the truth unless you mean rewarding HIMSELF. The God of the Bible is a SLAVE MASTER, a very demented one at that.
II Kings 2:11 says, "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses or fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind." This story really doesn't sound that different from the story of Enoch, right? In perusing the internet for appropriate videos of the dear DEAR brother Elijah I found this one. Totally excellent!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdrVvcvvY34
Three Men Survive Being Thrown In A Furnace
Daniel 3:22-26 says, "The king's command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace. Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, Weren't there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire? They replied, Certainly, Your Majesty. He said, Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods. Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here! So, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego came out of the fire."
These three fellows get thrown into the fire and SURVIVE! Almost as good as Penn and Teller. Anyways, here is a video about these fellows. You'll love the opening music. It sounds like something from the fifties or a Leave it to Beaver episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojDb-p-HBQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdrVvcvvY34
Three Men Survive Being Thrown In A Furnace
Daniel 3:22-26 says, "The king's command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace. Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, Weren't there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire? They replied, Certainly, Your Majesty. He said, Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods. Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here! So, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego came out of the fire."
These three fellows get thrown into the fire and SURVIVE! Almost as good as Penn and Teller. Anyways, here is a video about these fellows. You'll love the opening music. It sounds like something from the fifties or a Leave it to Beaver episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojDb-p-HBQ
Burn Baby, Burn: Moses And The Burning Bush
Exodus 3:2 says, "There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up." Ah, the lovely story of the burning bush in the middle of freaking nowhere, smack-dab in the boonies of the Middle East. Shit. My cat could have written a better story. Here is a video on...drum roll please...the BURNING BUSH! And of course I picked the clip with Charlton Heston.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUm6rC0o7Po
Water From A Rock
Exodus 17:6 says, "I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb. Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink. So, Moses did this in the sight of the elders of Israel."
Isaiah 48:21 says, "They did not thirst when he led them through the deserts; he made water flow for them from the rock; he split the rock and water gushed out." Water from a ROCK. Only a hair less impressive than blood from a turnip, hah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUYlHqQY6oU
Jacob Wrestles God...And WINS!
Genesis 32:23-28 says, "After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. So, Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. Then the man said, "Let me go, for it is daybreak." But Jacob replied, "I will not let you go unless you bless me." The man asked him, "What is your name?" "Jacob," he answered. Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome."
This is a hoot of a story, right? Never mind that God is supposed to be all powerful and due to that you would think He would be able to wrestle a mere ordinary man and win, right? WRONG. These videos are delicious fun. By the way, do you think that the part of this story where Jacob's hip is popped out of whack by the angel/God when the angel/God realizes He cannot beat Jacob at wrestling...do you find this to be a dirty fighting technique?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptzBiYDbsQ
And...ANOTHER Jacob wrestling God or a man video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2UAY6h7PI
Supernatural Beings/Sons of God Mating With Human Women
Genesis 6:4 says, "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."
Here is what gets me about this retarded story: I remember reading about Zeus when I was a kid and being scolded for asking if it had anything whatsoever to do with the story in the Bible where the 'Sons of God' see the women are beautiful and go 'into' them and have children. I figured there just HAD to be a connection being as though both were stories of the divine intermingling with humans for sex.
The first video is a bunch of badly doctored photos intended to help prove the 'truth' of the Bible. The only thing it proves is how far some people are willing to go in an effort to prove the Bible true, and of course they always fail. These idiots don't get it that in order to prove the Bible true...EVERYTHING in the Bible would have to be true. One falsity, ONE mis-stated or misrepresented fact (frankly of which there are many...well, ALL are fake crap) and religion can put a fork in its own ass. Actually, it should have done that a long ass time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJqJmYALOY
This second video on the Nephilim is hilariously delusional, so much so that I just HAD to put it in the blog. Who comes up with this crap?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKlUJF2FIg
Manna From Heaven: Bread Falls From The Sky?
Exodus 16:35 says, "The Israelites ate manna forty years, until they came to a land that was settled; they ate manna until they reached the border of Canaan."
Manna? Pray tell WHAT is MANNA? Let's find out.
Exodus 16:12-17 says, "I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, "At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God." That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp. When the dew was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert floor. When the Israelites saw it, they said to each other, "What is it?" For they did not know what it was. Moses said to them, "It is the bread the LORD has given you to eat. This is what the LORD has commanded, "Every one is to gather as much as they need. Take an omer for each person you have in your tent. The Israelites did as they were told; some gathered much, some little."
Now I have heard of pennies from heaven and I suppose some people do refer to money as bread. But, actual bread from heaven? Come on. What is this crazy horse shit? Watch the videos and find out.
In the first video who do we have but none other then...PETER POPOFF, charlatan extrordinaire offers his version of bullshit...I mean manna...that you can get, too. What a bastard. Popoff, you ARE sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXbQoWTMwnc
Holy shit! You gotta watch this video and hear this version of the story of what manna really is. This is pretty fucking funny! I have no idea who put this stuff together, but it is hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdc5GAN2XY
Samson Kicks The Crap Out Of One Thousand Men...With A Donkey's Jawbone
Judges 15:16 says, "Then Samson said, "With a donkey's jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey's jawbone I have killed a thousand men."
Oh please Jesus! Listen to Kirk Cameron in this comical bit of a bid to 'turn' people to Jesus. Hah! It figures they would get an ass to tell the story of an ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfPGPHZRk-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUm6rC0o7Po
Water From A Rock
Exodus 17:6 says, "I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb. Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink. So, Moses did this in the sight of the elders of Israel."
Isaiah 48:21 says, "They did not thirst when he led them through the deserts; he made water flow for them from the rock; he split the rock and water gushed out." Water from a ROCK. Only a hair less impressive than blood from a turnip, hah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUYlHqQY6oU
Jacob Wrestles God...And WINS!
Genesis 32:23-28 says, "After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. So, Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. Then the man said, "Let me go, for it is daybreak." But Jacob replied, "I will not let you go unless you bless me." The man asked him, "What is your name?" "Jacob," he answered. Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome."
This is a hoot of a story, right? Never mind that God is supposed to be all powerful and due to that you would think He would be able to wrestle a mere ordinary man and win, right? WRONG. These videos are delicious fun. By the way, do you think that the part of this story where Jacob's hip is popped out of whack by the angel/God when the angel/God realizes He cannot beat Jacob at wrestling...do you find this to be a dirty fighting technique?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptzBiYDbsQ
And...ANOTHER Jacob wrestling God or a man video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2UAY6h7PI
Supernatural Beings/Sons of God Mating With Human Women
Genesis 6:4 says, "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."
Here is what gets me about this retarded story: I remember reading about Zeus when I was a kid and being scolded for asking if it had anything whatsoever to do with the story in the Bible where the 'Sons of God' see the women are beautiful and go 'into' them and have children. I figured there just HAD to be a connection being as though both were stories of the divine intermingling with humans for sex.
The first video is a bunch of badly doctored photos intended to help prove the 'truth' of the Bible. The only thing it proves is how far some people are willing to go in an effort to prove the Bible true, and of course they always fail. These idiots don't get it that in order to prove the Bible true...EVERYTHING in the Bible would have to be true. One falsity, ONE mis-stated or misrepresented fact (frankly of which there are many...well, ALL are fake crap) and religion can put a fork in its own ass. Actually, it should have done that a long ass time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJqJmYALOY
This second video on the Nephilim is hilariously delusional, so much so that I just HAD to put it in the blog. Who comes up with this crap?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKlUJF2FIg
Manna From Heaven: Bread Falls From The Sky?
Exodus 16:35 says, "The Israelites ate manna forty years, until they came to a land that was settled; they ate manna until they reached the border of Canaan."
Manna? Pray tell WHAT is MANNA? Let's find out.
Exodus 16:12-17 says, "I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, "At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God." That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp. When the dew was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert floor. When the Israelites saw it, they said to each other, "What is it?" For they did not know what it was. Moses said to them, "It is the bread the LORD has given you to eat. This is what the LORD has commanded, "Every one is to gather as much as they need. Take an omer for each person you have in your tent. The Israelites did as they were told; some gathered much, some little."
Now I have heard of pennies from heaven and I suppose some people do refer to money as bread. But, actual bread from heaven? Come on. What is this crazy horse shit? Watch the videos and find out.
In the first video who do we have but none other then...PETER POPOFF, charlatan extrordinaire offers his version of bullshit...I mean manna...that you can get, too. What a bastard. Popoff, you ARE sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXbQoWTMwnc
Holy shit! You gotta watch this video and hear this version of the story of what manna really is. This is pretty fucking funny! I have no idea who put this stuff together, but it is hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdc5GAN2XY
Samson Kicks The Crap Out Of One Thousand Men...With A Donkey's Jawbone
Judges 15:16 says, "Then Samson said, "With a donkey's jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey's jawbone I have killed a thousand men."
Oh please Jesus! Listen to Kirk Cameron in this comical bit of a bid to 'turn' people to Jesus. Hah! It figures they would get an ass to tell the story of an ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfPGPHZRk-g
Mere Mortal Joshua Commands The Sun And Moon To STOP
Joshua 10:12-13 says, "On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel: "Sun, stand still over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon." So, the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day."
God is so loving and forgiving and wants only the best things in the universe for everyone...so long as they are His people...that He allows the sun and moon to stay up past bedtime TOGETHER so that God can allow His chosen people to murder the shit out of the enemy. NICE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK0F_f_daQw&list=PLF12A15C8113009BD
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